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  From:  mikael (taomikael)    Nov-7 10:10 pm  
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Two topics here, both closed just as soon as there were sober, logical, factual opposing posts, contradicting the arrant prejudice, falsehood and homophobia of the seeders. 
In the same time as there were dozens and dozens of posts in other forums, there were three - count them, 3 -- new posts here. This is not accidental. 

This, Mr. Brown, is why you and your ilk fail. 

In years to come, our children will look at us and ask: "What on earth was all the fuss about?" You, and your ilk, willhave to hide your faces, turning away lest you see the terrible sight of pity in the looks of your children, and their questions of "how could anyone be so cruelly ignorant?" Just as the children of the last remaining elderly, committed racists, tell each other that Grandpa or Grandma must be excused and respected despite their terrible ignorance and racism, you, too, will see your children and grandchildren make excuses for your homophobia and prejudice. 

Last Sunday, an openly gay bishop was consecrated in New Hampshire. The tide has turned. Ignorance and bigotry has suffered a massive defeat, and more is surely coming. 

Here, where you hold the keys to the controls, you may be able to delete posts and pretend, for a while. But not forever. You are storing up torment for yourself that will surely flower in the not too distant future. 

I could almost pity you, were it not for the evil that you encourage. 

--mikael
 
  
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  From:  LenBenHEAR/LIFE_or_death:SEE: John 3:36 (franknsense)    Nov-8 2:39 am  
To:  mikael (taomikael)    (2 of 7)  
 
  739.2 in reply to 739.1  
 
The Word of God is very very V E R Y clear on such matters: 
* Romans 1:18-32. 

Let the record show THE SIMPLE, CLEAR TRUTH . . . 

BOTH the Hebrew and the Christian 
scriptures CONDEMN as sin the practice of homosexuality. 

* The Catholic Church considers it sin; 

* The Orthodox Church considers it sin; 

and *all* Bible-based Protestant churches consider it sin. 
- they all agree with one voice. 

Why? Because the Bible so very, very clearly DEFINES IT 
as a sinful practice and as a sexual perversion. In fact, it is 
defined (along with idolatry and bestiality) as AN ABOMINATION. 

all attempts, [almost always made by either homosexual or very 
liberal-apostate Christians] to "justify" homosexual acts 
is nothing but an attempt to twist the obvious and clear 
meaning of scripture on the matter. 

See: 

* II Peter 2:6 

* I Timothy 1:10. 

* Leviticus 18:22, 29; 20:13.* 
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* Genesis 19:4-9. 

* Deuteronomy 23:17. 

* Isaiah 3:9. 

* Jude, verse 7. 

and (as previously mentioned) 
Romans 1:27. I Cor.6:9-10. 

~ The Bible is VERY clear. Only those who DON'T WANT the Truth 

refuse to see it. ~ but it is abundantly clear 

for the fair and reasonably objective. 

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---> Isaiah 54:15-17 
*LenBenHear/FranknSense/Romans 8:14 + John 3:8* 
---> Isaiah 41:1--13 

VINCIT OMNIA VERITAS 

* Truth Triumphs Over All * 

* Truth Invincible * 

(Always "speak the Truth in Love)...[see Profile] 

TWO HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BOOKS for those who are 
wondering or considering the validity of Jesus 
Christ as Savior and Lord: THE CASE FOR CHRIST, 
and THE CASE FOR FAITH, - both my journalist, 
legal expert, and author, Lee Strobel. - both of 
these books are a very, very worthwhile read. 

* Be very sure that you do not reject the Lord 
Jesus Christ and His Gospel, - for if you do: 
it will prove to be absolutely the very worst 
AND THE MOST FOOLISH 
thing you ever do in life." - C.H.Spurgeon, The 
Prince of Preachers. 

NOTHING YOU AND I CAN OR WILL EVER DO can substitute 
for the mercy and grace found in the redemptive work 
of Jesus Christ, The Lamb of God. * 

HE IS The ONLY Way to forgiveness and 
reconciliation with GOD. WITHOUT THE BLOOD ATONEMENT 
THERE IS NO REMISSION OF THE ETERNAL CONSEQUENCES OF SIN. 
---> The ETERNAL consequences of sin. 

* GOD IS SEARCHING EVERY HEART AND THEIR (actual) 
RELATIONSHIP TO HIS SON AND ETERNAL WORD! * 
* He is looking for REALITY: not pretense! * 


* There is a time for mercy...and a time for Judgement. * - (which one you get depends upon your honesty and humility before GOD)







It all has to do with *fruit* and destiny.---> YOUR choices. Choose Him: choose Life. HE IS GOD's Way to mercy, grace, forgiveness... and TRANSFORMATION! But those who reject Him shall be cast into eternal darkness. - ESPECIALLY those who hypocritically CLAIM to follow Him.
Many, many, M A N Y are those who have betrayed Him and "have a name only..." 






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and YOU will be EITHER the cross on His right...or the cross on His left. - they symbolize the whole of humanity in relation to Him: The Savior and Judge of every soul. THIS I declare to you in the authority of His Name and Word: you are EITHER {and WILL be either} one or the other. ~ Selah. {pause and ponder that very carefully} for it is an ETERNAL TRUTH. 
 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    Nov-8 7:12 am  
To:  mikael (taomikael)    (3 of 7)  
 
  739.3 in reply to 739.1  
 
Hi,

 

You are the reason that I closed one of the topics and  the reason why I closed the other topic.

 

You could have chosen to post dialogue yet even your post to start this topic reveals that you that you have no interest in dialogue but only in posting your Hate and Vengeance.

 

What am I supposed to run a forum where you can come and accuse and bash others to your hearts content? I dont think so!

 

You are Really Sad because you think that you are at War with others, be they conservative, Christians, or pro-family, non-homosexuals, but really you are only at war with yourself and with God. Even more sad is that in your war your victory is hollow and therefore there are no winners but only losers.

 

God Bless you,
David



David A. Brown
Basic Christian: Forum
www.BasicChristian.org

 
  
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  From:  mikael (taomikael)    Nov-8 5:09 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (4 of 7)  
 
  739.4 in reply to 739.3  
 
Mr. Brown, 
<<"You could have chosen to post dialogue yet even your post to start this topic reveals that you that you have no interest in dialogue but only in posting your Hate and Vengeance.">> 

I find it interesting that you term simple truth to be hate and vengeance, it says a lot about your values. 

BUt to help your understanding, I do not hate you. I despise what you do. 

I am well aware that I am the reason that you closed one of the topics -- you got challenged with clear logic and facts for which you had no answer. Rather than be honest about that, you deleted the message and closed the topic. This is exactly why you fail. 

What are you supposed to do? You have chosen to run a forum. Forums are about the free exchange of ideas so that all may learn. If this particular forum has another purpose, perhaps to propagate misinformation, prejudice and bigotry, then you may be faced with a bit of quandary. If you limit the posting to only those which support your personally chosen religious belief system, the traffic will likely continue to be very, very low. If you don't limit the posts, then your cant is going to be thoroughly dissected and refuted -- but you'll have more visitors. It's really up to you to choose. 

In the meantime, if erroneous content and propaganda is posted, you can expect me and others to challenge it with fact and reasoning. You can of course continue to delete posts and to close threads to run from the truth, but truth has a way of getting past such roadblocks. 

--mikael
 
  
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  From:  mikael (taomikael)    Nov-8 5:17 pm  
To:  LenBenHEAR/LIFE_or_death:SEE: John 3:36 (franknsense)   (5 of 7)  
 
  739.5 in reply to 739.2  
 
Mr. Frankinsesn, 
<<"The Word of God is very very V E R Y clear on such matters:">> 

I wouldn't call it very clear, but the truth is there for those who are willing to see it. 

The Bible does not take a clear cut stance on the question of the inherent morality of homosexuality either as an orientation or as an action. 

The subject *might* be touched in only six places in the Bible. None of them make the blanket condemnation that you think that they do. None of them address the issue of two people of the same gender who wish to commit the rest of their lives to each other. 

Now if you would like to take those six places and debate their meaning one by one, I'll be glad to oblige you. You'll need to have access to the original languages and their various translations, plus a good working knowledge of logic, history, psychology and sexuality if the discussion is to be fruitful. If you don't have or are not willing to consider these elements, then perhaps we should not proceed. 

What say you? 

--mikael
 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    Nov-8 6:34 pm  
To:  LenBenHEAR/LIFE_or_death:SEE: John 3:36 (franknsense)   (6 of 7)  
 
  739.6 in reply to 739.5  
 
Typical,

 

Everything one might need in a study of the Bible except the Holy Spirit, discernment, and obedience.

 

God Bless You,
David



David A. Brown
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   From:  LenBenHEAR/LIFE_or_death:SEE: John 3:36 (franknsense)    Nov-10 12:04 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (7 of 7)  
 
  739.7 in reply to 739.6  
 
Hi David. As I have said before: I am not interested in 
"debating" reprobates who have proven themselves utterly 
uninterested in the truth OR sound Biblical values. 
People who have rejected Christ, rejected the Light of the 
Word, and who OPPOSE Christ and the simple, clear, unmistakably 
truth are covered by * Romans 1:18-32 and II Timothy 3:1-9. * 

Thus do I leave them alone...and perhaps pray for them 
if so burdened. 

God bless. 

and glad to see you continue to moderate this 
forum with a sane and sensible approach. 


* People are being *fixed* in their true INWARD spiritual condition by choices and responses to Jesus Christ and His redemptive work and words. - IT IS AN INWARD PREPARATION for The Final Seperation. *

~ CHOICES.


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* He is looking for REALITY: not pretense! * 


Daniel 12:10: Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly:

and none of the wicked shall understand; 

--> but the wise shall understand. <-- 


WHAT IS HAPPENING? ---> * Matthew 24:10-14 * * Luke 21:22, 31-36 * ** 2 Thess.2:3-12 ** ~ II Timothy 3:1-9, * 
* HEBREWS 12:25-29 * 

- and THAT is what's happening. *FOR REAL* 

THE FINAL SIFTING IS IN FULL-THROTTLE!



---> Isaiah 54:15-17 * Psalm 35:1-8,22,23 * <---

*LenBenHear/FranknSense/SEE: Romans 8:14 + John 3:8 and

~~~ I Cor.1:15-16; 4:3-5 ~~~

---> Isaiah 41:10-13 *Psalm 94:1-16, 21-23.* <---


VINCIT OMNIA VERITAS: * There is a time for mercy...and a time for Judgement. * - (which one you get depends upon your honesty and humility before GOD)


sanctification. 

>>>>>>>> 


** Malachi 3:1-4, + 16-18 **

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** I Corinthians 2:16; 4:3-5 **






It all has to do with *fruit* and destiny.---> YOUR choices. Choose Him: choose Life. HE IS GOD's Way to mercy, grace, forgiveness... and TRANSFORMATION! 





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and YOU will be EITHER the cross on His right...or the cross on His left. - they symbolize the whole of humanity in relation to Him: The Savior and Judge of every soul. THIS I declare to you in the authority of His Name and Word: you are EITHER {and WILL be either} one or the other. ~ Selah. {pause and ponder that very carefully} for it is an ETERNAL TRUTH. 
 
  
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